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		<title>By: Miss Dennis Queen</title>
		<link>http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/loving-parents-and-transphobic-parents/#comment-1842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Dennis Queen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[absolutely agree with that! the assembly was a bad move I think. definitely different things work for different people. I thinkit&#039;s a sign of the times that schools are prepared to expect inclusion.. certainly wasn;t possible when I was at school! I almost got expelled for trying to be one of the boys.. aged just eight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolutely agree with that! the assembly was a bad move I think. definitely different things work for different people. I thinkit&#8217;s a sign of the times that schools are prepared to expect inclusion.. certainly wasn;t possible when I was at school! I almost got expelled for trying to be one of the boys.. aged just eight.</p>
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		<title>By: eclectic chicken</title>
		<link>http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/loving-parents-and-transphobic-parents/#comment-1839</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t see where Jane said it should be expected procedure to send a letter... what she did say was that involving people is the best bet.

 In our case that did mean sending letters out to parents via the school, so people would understand the issues and know it was ok to ask questions and who to ask... it broke the ice and made us more approachable I think.... it was right for us, felt right for the school and I think the head and staff appreciated our openess.

We could just have gone for it and expected acceptance....as everyone has a right to.... but it felt that giving people the information made that acceptance easier to give. (or in the case of those who don&#039;t accept...at least they come at it from a position of knowledge as opposed to total ignorance - but theres never been any overt signs of non-acceptance at school... perhaps the letter also let people know the culture of the school was one of acceptance in the very fact that the issue was addressed so openly)

Personally I find a letter home that can be discussed and something maybe in individual classes would be preferable to a whole school assembly..which to be honest sounds a hideous way of dealing with one persons personal life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see where Jane said it should be expected procedure to send a letter&#8230; what she did say was that involving people is the best bet.</p>
<p> In our case that did mean sending letters out to parents via the school, so people would understand the issues and know it was ok to ask questions and who to ask&#8230; it broke the ice and made us more approachable I think&#8230;. it was right for us, felt right for the school and I think the head and staff appreciated our openess.</p>
<p>We could just have gone for it and expected acceptance&#8230;.as everyone has a right to&#8230;. but it felt that giving people the information made that acceptance easier to give. (or in the case of those who don&#8217;t accept&#8230;at least they come at it from a position of knowledge as opposed to total ignorance &#8211; but theres never been any overt signs of non-acceptance at school&#8230; perhaps the letter also let people know the culture of the school was one of acceptance in the very fact that the issue was addressed so openly)</p>
<p>Personally I find a letter home that can be discussed and something maybe in individual classes would be preferable to a whole school assembly..which to be honest sounds a hideous way of dealing with one persons personal life.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Dennis Queen</title>
		<link>http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/loving-parents-and-transphobic-parents/#comment-1838</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s your choice if you wish to Jane but I don&#039;t think it should be the expected procedure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s your choice if you wish to Jane but I don&#8217;t think it should be the expected procedure.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Dennis Queen</title>
		<link>http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/loving-parents-and-transphobic-parents/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Dennis Queen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PPS I don&#039;t think anyone should have to notify everyone by letter, nobody is owed that information about someone&#039;s private business. I think the press should have grown out of this crap by now and treat them as the police/social services no doubt would, with distain and amusement at their ignorance. 

It&#039;s a person&#039;s private health info and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s any more of anyone&#039;s business than usual because it&#039;s a trans issue. The parents will educate (or not) as they do in either situation, I suspect. 

I think parents can only hold themselves responsible for sheltering their kids from reality. Trans people are part of the real world. If people choose to ignore this until they can;t ignore it any more it&#039;s their own lookout. Our genders are none of their business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPS I don&#8217;t think anyone should have to notify everyone by letter, nobody is owed that information about someone&#8217;s private business. I think the press should have grown out of this crap by now and treat them as the police/social services no doubt would, with distain and amusement at their ignorance. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a person&#8217;s private health info and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s any more of anyone&#8217;s business than usual because it&#8217;s a trans issue. The parents will educate (or not) as they do in either situation, I suspect. </p>
<p>I think parents can only hold themselves responsible for sheltering their kids from reality. Trans people are part of the real world. If people choose to ignore this until they can;t ignore it any more it&#8217;s their own lookout. Our genders are none of their business.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Dennis Queen</title>
		<link>http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/loving-parents-and-transphobic-parents/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Dennis Queen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ps just as a footnote, the amused parents response when asked if this was ok was &quot;Lets see how you feel nearer the time ;-)&quot; xx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps just as a footnote, the amused parents response when asked if this was ok was &#8220;Lets see how you feel nearer the time <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221; xx</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Dennis Queen</title>
		<link>http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/loving-parents-and-transphobic-parents/#comment-1835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Dennis Queen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jane.. just thanks x x x 

I saw a tabloid piece on this child and it&#039;s been blown up into a grim drama, completely unnecessarily. Well done to this youngster&#039;s parents for supporting their child through such a difficult time. Well done to the young lass concerned for holding her head high. Seems she can&#039;t win either way: bullied if she does - bullied if she doesn&#039;t. Schools need decent advice about how to manage these situations. As for prejudiced parents? Nothing will ever be to their taste, so putting their views first is not needed. The school are right to expect inclusion for ALL pupils, and should use the same procedures they use with young disabled people, there&#039;s plenty of expertise out there about including people who don&#039;t fit the standard. Just for some contrast.. a conversation I overheard between two kids who have already been enlightened that some people grow away from their allocated sex and it&#039;s demands and adopt their own gender:


Twin1: What high school am I going to?

Mum: Either the girl&#039;s school like your sister, or to the mixed school with your twin brother.

Twin2: I want to go to high school together!

Twin1: I want to go to the girl&#039;s school.

Twin2: OK.. I will just become a girl and then we can both go. :)

Twin1: Alright then.

The things twins say!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane.. just thanks x x x </p>
<p>I saw a tabloid piece on this child and it&#8217;s been blown up into a grim drama, completely unnecessarily. Well done to this youngster&#8217;s parents for supporting their child through such a difficult time. Well done to the young lass concerned for holding her head high. Seems she can&#8217;t win either way: bullied if she does &#8211; bullied if she doesn&#8217;t. Schools need decent advice about how to manage these situations. As for prejudiced parents? Nothing will ever be to their taste, so putting their views first is not needed. The school are right to expect inclusion for ALL pupils, and should use the same procedures they use with young disabled people, there&#8217;s plenty of expertise out there about including people who don&#8217;t fit the standard. Just for some contrast.. a conversation I overheard between two kids who have already been enlightened that some people grow away from their allocated sex and it&#8217;s demands and adopt their own gender:</p>
<p>Twin1: What high school am I going to?</p>
<p>Mum: Either the girl&#8217;s school like your sister, or to the mixed school with your twin brother.</p>
<p>Twin2: I want to go to high school together!</p>
<p>Twin1: I want to go to the girl&#8217;s school.</p>
<p>Twin2: OK.. I will just become a girl and then we can both go. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Twin1: Alright then.</p>
<p>The things twins say!</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyne</title>
		<link>http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/loving-parents-and-transphobic-parents/#comment-1832</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I liked that story and I liked the mother&#039;s interview.  I saw it on the BBC and that led me to your interview and to search for you on the internet and find your blog for which I am very grateful.  As a mother of a transgendered child, I feel for her and the child.  There are so many difficult issues to think about and fret about.  But, as you say at the beginning of your piece, one of the worst is the idea of a mistake in diagnosis.  Might he/she change her mind later?  I wonder what intangible thing it is in the brain of my child that make them think they are not what their body says they are?...  why is it treated by some as a mental illness but not by others?... why are some behaviours which seem obviously of the bodily gender still happening when the child transitions?... why does a child who never wanted to choose (for instance) pink shirts, play with girl&#039;s toys, learn girl&#039;s activities, suddenly decide he is really a girl?.. 
As a mother I was never aware of putting any kind of pressure on my son to be masculin.  I warned him about flapping his hands when he ran because I was afraid that would lead to bullying but that&#039;s all... I think.  
Anyway, hopefully more good reporting of these cases will help more people understand better.  
Thanks
Evelyne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I liked that story and I liked the mother&#8217;s interview.  I saw it on the BBC and that led me to your interview and to search for you on the internet and find your blog for which I am very grateful.  As a mother of a transgendered child, I feel for her and the child.  There are so many difficult issues to think about and fret about.  But, as you say at the beginning of your piece, one of the worst is the idea of a mistake in diagnosis.  Might he/she change her mind later?  I wonder what intangible thing it is in the brain of my child that make them think they are not what their body says they are?&#8230;  why is it treated by some as a mental illness but not by others?&#8230; why are some behaviours which seem obviously of the bodily gender still happening when the child transitions?&#8230; why does a child who never wanted to choose (for instance) pink shirts, play with girl&#8217;s toys, learn girl&#8217;s activities, suddenly decide he is really a girl?..<br />
As a mother I was never aware of putting any kind of pressure on my son to be masculin.  I warned him about flapping his hands when he ran because I was afraid that would lead to bullying but that&#8217;s all&#8230; I think.<br />
Anyway, hopefully more good reporting of these cases will help more people understand better.<br />
Thanks<br />
Evelyne</p>
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